tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post8597898206825917887..comments2023-04-26T23:19:46.504-04:00Comments on Notes from the T side: Sweden Sued Over Forced SterilizationElizabethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-40534611606982023262012-12-04T20:17:08.705-05:002012-12-04T20:17:08.705-05:00Now this is progress
http://gendertrender.wordpres...Now this is progress<br />http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/helena-montana-adds-colleen-francis-clause-to-non-discrimination-statute/<br /><br /><br /><br />NYFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-25964399388997670402012-12-04T18:17:53.413-05:002012-12-04T18:17:53.413-05:00elfchick: "Has anyone here thought about mana...elfchick: "Has anyone here thought about managing for a planned menopause? Seriously, I've been taking hormones for 42 years now and am wondering just when is it time to climb down off that particular biochemical roller-coaster?"<br /><br />If you weren't engaged in a misplaced emulation of menstrual cycle it wouldn't be a roller-coaster you feel it necessary to dismount from.<br /><br />And to answer others' replies; deliberate aging seems perverse - it isn't only cosmetic you know! Progesterone has no connections to cancer. Recent research shows that loss of testosterone increases longevity by many years, which probably accounts for the most of the youthfulness. Being in my mid-60s, 42 years on hormones, and 40 years post-SRS, I can say that HRT has many benefits but does not stop aging forever; I so wish!<br /><br />oatcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-77445074654861709802012-12-04T18:03:33.522-05:002012-12-04T18:03:33.522-05:00Hi Sis,
Just for the record, Sweden introduced ge...Hi Sis,<br /><br />Just for the record, Sweden introduced gender equality in its marriage laws in 2009; this propaganda that that requiring SRS for a change of legal sex is sterilisation actually started with a paper by Stephen Whittle arguing against the Dutch legal requirement to be sterile rather than to have had SRS, continuing on from the discrediting of penile construction surgery amongst F->Ms, so it was originally more about preserving the ability of F->Ms to bear children.<br /><br />Sweden deserves credit for being the first country in the world to have legislation managing and recognising change of sex, but that legislation is now outdated in several ways, including that a set official path must be followed, which does not provide for the treatment of children, or recognition for those who have surgery overseas, where the techniques are better, and things can be done with far less stress and delay. The TG demands are a total gift to the entrenched official psychiatrists, and are holding other needed reforms hostage.<br /><br />oatcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-48140943435023381362012-12-02T15:18:04.464-05:002012-12-02T15:18:04.464-05:00You are welcome!
- an old auntyYou are welcome!<br /><br />- an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-29707074843142232012012-12-01T12:54:58.727-05:002012-12-01T12:54:58.727-05:00Dear Aunty:
A rain-spattered, caffeine-addicted E...Dear Aunty:<br /><br />A rain-spattered, caffeine-addicted Elfchick is now trembling in horror at the anticpated consequences of having habitually quaffed her customary morning cups (two) of coffee for lo these many years.<br /><br />On second glance, though, I do fairly note the word 'distant' tucked in there. Thank you for that small consolation.<br /><br />I remain convinced that makeup is one of the worst things that we can inflict upon ourselves, and that's not simply my experience in industrial management coming to the fore.<br /><br />Thanks, again, for the interesting chat, a vast improvement over the general tone of Net comments. ^_^<br /><br />Yours kindly,<br /><br />an anonymous and far-travelled ElfchickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-85592994255168781662012-11-30T23:39:33.914-05:002012-11-30T23:39:33.914-05:00Sunlight damage is the worst. Smoking damage is se...Sunlight damage is the worst. Smoking damage is second. Caffeine damage a distant third.<br /><br />- an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-49353047186413054982012-11-30T10:20:33.534-05:002012-11-30T10:20:33.534-05:00NYF:
I must confess to not being familiar with th...NYF:<br /><br />I must confess to not being familiar with the term 'ladder 2', in the context of hormones. I remain mindful that I am mostly self-taught on the subject of biological consequences of extended intake of exogenous hormones -- well, that and taking notes when my endos drew diagrammes from time to time.<br /><br />Of course, being essentially the one experimental case in an uncontrolled experiment called 'life', I'm hesitant to ascribe my skin's well-being to genetic effects, beyond the immediate observation of finding it really hard to tan beyond the gradual merger of my northern European summer-time freckles. <br /><br />I can't help but think that drinking a great deal of water, never smoking, and avoiding the use of (pore-clogging) makeup has probably beeen helpful to my skin's continued elasticity.<br /><br />I'd concur in the conclusion that estrogenic support does wonders for maintaining subcutaneous facial fat. There's a delicate balancing act involved there, between 'starving oneself slim' and as a side-effect losing those facial contours, and developing voluptuous curves that (alas) also encourage the dreaded double chin.<br /><br />Would that all life's problems were so trivially complex.<br /><br />Enjoying this conversation, I am...<br /><br />yours from afar, the rain-soaked Elfchick <br /><br />---- > A tangent as postscript: there are about 20 other women at my workplace. None of us wear makeup to work, as we work in atrociously-dusty environments. The non-smokers, at least, have good skin, despite the great span of ages from 30 to 65. Personal habits may have as much to do with skin condition as genetics, or as circulating levels of hormones. I must offer that demurral or risk having my scientific training be rendered forfeit, ne?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-78629749539816244202012-11-30T01:35:33.261-05:002012-11-30T01:35:33.261-05:00A provacative perspective...
http://purplespeaks....A provacative perspective...<br /><br />http://purplespeaks.wordpress.com/2012/11/26/some-people-love-to-argue/<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-59598808318565495652012-11-28T16:10:49.141-05:002012-11-28T16:10:49.141-05:00Luck of the draw genetic is also essential. In the...Luck of the draw genetic is also essential. In the interest of full disclosure, my female friends were very jealous of my complexion before I started hormones. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-69561570600929591842012-11-28T07:31:34.104-05:002012-11-28T07:31:34.104-05:00Probably very true aunty, I'm told "stres...Probably very true aunty, I'm told "stress" is also a big factor in the aging process.Van Burenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10771368775037115526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-71221132396747238872012-11-27T16:10:13.644-05:002012-11-27T16:10:13.644-05:00I think like just about any other supplementary ch...I think like just about any other supplementary chemical we put into our bodies, it's all about the chemical and it's biocompatibility.<br />It's odd how there are gobs of studies showing how harmful Prempro is and yet there are none showing the long term effects of Estradiol or Prometrium, both are plant derived and don't come from animal sources or from petroleum. The ladder 2 hormones are dirt cheap and usually give good results. As for reducing HRT I wonder how many females who are not born with our birth defect would avoid the menopause if they could and just keep on their natural hormone levels. <br /><br />NYFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-64686308732957920612012-11-27T16:02:36.585-05:002012-11-27T16:02:36.585-05:00Most people estimate age by looking at the face, m...Most people estimate age by looking at the face, mostly judging by the fine lines and wrinkles. Based up the women I've known, bearing children can damage bodies but does little if anything to age damage the face. (Sun damage and smoking are the biggest face aging culprits.) Fine line age markers, and to a lessor extent wrinkles, are dependent upon skin thickness, collagen and subcutaneous fat. Whether it's XY chromosomes or testosterone at puberty, we have the advantage with thicker dermis. When the subcutaneous fat layer is maintained with estrogen, the combination gives us a significant fine line advantage that knocks age estimating into a cocked hat.<br /><br />- an old aunty<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-54745571102639033482012-11-27T06:40:07.407-05:002012-11-27T06:40:07.407-05:00Hi, C.I.
The appearance of being younger doesn...Hi, C.I.<br /><br />The appearance of being younger doesn't hurt my feelings at all; after all, that's the gist of why department-stores have large cosmetics departments. ^_^<br /><br />I'm mostly worried about the potential for side-effects. We've probably all been following the contradictory scientific reports. Certainly progesterone intake is associated with elevated cancer risk.<br /><br />Maybe we **are** the science, these days.<br /><br />Sign me,<br />snow-covered elfchick, marvelling at life <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-81511356132743190622012-11-27T05:39:17.611-05:002012-11-27T05:39:17.611-05:00Something I think worthy of consideration (whilst ...Something I think worthy of consideration (whilst we're off on tangents, and I honestly DON'T mean to be a dream wrecker, Believe me, I'm not exactly overjoyed about it, but sadly reality has always been a little too insistent in my case, (sadly) I've NEVER had the,<i>luxury</i> of living in a dream world and I think it irresponsible and dangerous to promote doing so), is that the other factor in play here is that most women by age 40/50/60 have born their own children, and that in itself wreaks quite a bit of havoc on and a woman’s body.<br /><br />So my thoughts are that it would be somewhat unfounded to attribute youthful looks solely to HRT.<br />Van Burenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10771368775037115526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-11118997110257530462012-11-26T21:34:05.655-05:002012-11-26T21:34:05.655-05:00As a 40+ year veteran of HRT, I too have noticed t...As a 40+ year veteran of HRT, I too have noticed this juvenating effect. I have often wondered if it was the hormones that caused me to look so young.<br /><br />The fact that I look like a vibrant 50 y/o woman, bothers me not one whit.<br /><br />C.I.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-86604130501962416962012-11-26T14:20:32.168-05:002012-11-26T14:20:32.168-05:00I started hormones more than 40 years ago in my ea...I started hormones more than 40 years ago in my early 20's and have the same issue of looking 15-20 years younger, but I'm good with that. It's possibly a function of estrogen maintained the subcutaneous fat layer.<br /><br />In theory with a selection of at least two differently compounded hormone mixes to emulate a natural cycle, but I've not known anyone who's done it. Also, the progesterone level to simulate a cycle may elevate cancer risk.<br /><br />- an old aunty<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-27824298353233221592012-11-26T13:19:31.583-05:002012-11-26T13:19:31.583-05:00Interesting this. I refrained from offering my opi...Interesting this. I refrained from offering my opinion due to the fact that my "rollercoaster"'is only just starting to build some momentum (so wtf would I know ;-) ), that said, I was going to respond that from what I'd heard; lowered Hrt levels increased the likelihood of osteoporosis and follow up with; BUT! isn't that pretty "normal" for aging women? And ask elfchick if that might not actually be her motivation (or "beneficial" in her opinion?)<br /><br />Funny how things play out<br /><br />Informative though, thanks!<br /><br />"a baby sister" (what? Everyone else was doing it!)Van Burenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10771368775037115526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-31928090262955679502012-11-26T08:25:40.866-05:002012-11-26T08:25:40.866-05:00Dear Old Aunty!
(how marvellous to be able to wri...Dear Old Aunty!<br /><br />(how marvellous to be able to write that salutation, what with being estranged from my adoptive 'family' and all! I hope you don't mind my happy burbling.)<br /><br />Thank you! I'll have to give the compounded cream a serious consideration. My endocrinologist (a brilliant fellow out in Vancouver, trained by my original and now-long-retired one) told me at my last checkup that he'd recommend sticking with my current transdermal regimen until age ~70, on grounds of osteoporosis prevention.<br /><br />(Which is to say, I'll ask my endo about it the next time I see him: he's of the school of thought that the patient is the best expert concerning their own situation!)<br /><br />My big concern is the Dorian Grey effect, wherein I'm not visibly aging at a similar rate to my supposed age-cohort. That's becoming already somewhat of a social concern.<br /><br />Yes, it does beggar the imagination to think that there'd be any woman who'd worry that she's **too** young-looking, but the continued intake of rather high levels of exogenous hormones has led to a certain neoteny which onlookers find downright unsettling at times.<br /><br />Oh, another question while I'm 'on the line' as t'were: is it possible to work any sort of cycle while using transdermal cream? With patches and oral meds I can at least work a three-phase cycle that seems to have 'normalised' my experience of hormonal effects. Sure, there are schools of thought that argued for avoiding cycling, but darn it all, I just ever only wanted to lead my life as simply and non-adjectivally as possible, hence the effort to maintain some sort of monthly cycle, with its benefits and drawbacks taken as-given.<br /><br />Hugs from afar,<br /><br />your burbling neighbour, the elfchick<br /><br />[apologies once again offered to Liz for remaining anonymous, but the risks and costs of outing by curious onlookers are far too high]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-70624682344781061662012-11-26T02:58:50.115-05:002012-11-26T02:58:50.115-05:00I don't recommend cold turkey. A gradual reduc...I don't recommend cold turkey. A gradual reduction is difficult to do with pills or patches. If you use compounded transdermal cream, tapering-off is fairly easy and you cut back over a year or two to make the reduction very gradual. <br /><br />-an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-7800180865325773402012-11-25T20:37:45.023-05:002012-11-25T20:37:45.023-05:00Hi! Your friendly neighbourhood elfchick here, wan...Hi! Your friendly neighbourhood elfchick here, wanting to derail this thread a bit.<br /><br />Has anyone here thought about managing for a planned menopause? Seriously, I've been taking hormones for 42 years now and am wondering just when is it time to climb down off that particular biochemical roller-coaster?<br /><br />Some of you are older, surely -- what do **you** think?<br /><br />yours, etc.<br />the far-travelled elfchick<br /><br />p.s. apologies for being anonymous but, darn it all, stealth is essential these days -- at least I think so, for my situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-25235027245432807912012-11-22T21:14:32.647-05:002012-11-22T21:14:32.647-05:00Ah. June Hingle, well known internet TG loon. Expl...Ah. June Hingle, well known internet TG loon. Explains much.<br /><br />- an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-62370558973256980992012-11-22T17:00:40.991-05:002012-11-22T17:00:40.991-05:00The above comment is from June Hingle and I let it...The above comment is from June Hingle and I let it through so everyone can realize how truly evil June Hingle is.<br /><br />First off June nobody ruined my life. I have had the life I dreamed of. I have been complete for almost 42 years and not one single person has ever thought I was not the girl and woman they witnessed in front of them because that is truly what I always was.<br /><br />I had a bad marriage like many women do but I also raised a daughter and later married the most wonderful man. The transgender have not harmed me nor can they harm me but they can harm others including the children I support but then everything in your life has always been about June Hingle.<br /><br />You are in all honesty not much of a human being. Your obsession over me has led to you trying to out me on multiple blogs but thankfully you do not know and never will know who I am.<br /><br />You are truly an offensive human being. I wish no harm on any other person because that is not who I am. <br /><br />If you think this is entertainment then you are even sicker than I realized a long time ago. Now go into your garage and maybe the roof will disappear like it did before and this time you will realize you are just a miserable and very sad individual.<br /><br />Now I have to go have Thanksgiving dinner with my daughter and her husband and children and somehow I doubt that is happening for you and that is sad but then based on what you post I doubt anyone could stand to be around you very long.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-72531429899511120712012-11-21T22:44:20.084-05:002012-11-21T22:44:20.084-05:00@ Liz
Perhaps I will return here in about ten yea...@ Liz<br /><br />Perhaps I will return here in about ten years to lurk, but you will probably already be dead. I suppose that all of this stuff could be reincarnated as "Uselessnet" or "Stresspool" :{ but you'll be gone...darn! Of course if the world is truly lucky, you will still be here, and maybe even riding around in a wheelchair, loudspeaker blasting, proclaiming that Transmonkeyclones ruined your life. <br /><br />Thankz for the entertainment.<br /><br />goodbye Sis :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-45245552043070592452012-11-21T22:43:37.641-05:002012-11-21T22:43:37.641-05:00@Everyone
Somehow I let several June Hingle comme...@Everyone<br /><br />Somehow I let several June Hingle comments be posted because June decided to be Anonymous and not sign her posts. Silly me but I did not recognize her comments and she knows she is banned.<br /><br />From now on any Anonymous post unsigned goes to Spam.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-34732924478524605772012-11-21T20:07:58.861-05:002012-11-21T20:07:58.861-05:00Someone said.........
"" Anonymous Anony...Someone said.........<br />"" Anonymous Anonymous said...<br /><br /> So according to Hingle and Black Swan they are both male. Their goal, in lieu of actual acceptance by, and natural assimilation into, the rest of society, is some speshul status or recognition as trans, (or something other than male of female).<br /><br /> Selfishly they cannot allow those who actually were able to find a cure to be free of their tragic pathology. Therein lies their insane drive to ferret out those that have quietly passed through the pathos into simple reality.<br /><br /> November 21, 2012 11:57 AM<br />""<br /><br />Whoever you are, you can see through these dudes like they were made of glass. <br /><br />Screw them, they created their in-between world, they made their bed let them sleep in it. <br />I sure as hell don't want them in women's spaces. <br />NYFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com