tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post5413651933339187720..comments2023-04-26T23:19:46.504-04:00Comments on Notes from the T side: Chick-Fil-A trouble.Elizabethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-70871340797967697342012-08-07T04:02:21.911-04:002012-08-07T04:02:21.911-04:00The mayor didn't use the power of his office, ...The mayor didn't use the power of his office, just his reputation. Even mayors have a right to free speech.<br /><br />Also, I don't care whether the majority agrees or approves, so long as the rights are guaranteed. At one time the majority of those recognized as citizens of the USA did not agree with legal equality for african americans.<br /><br />- an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-86936113519818072642012-08-06T19:51:13.914-04:002012-08-06T19:51:13.914-04:00"Marriage provides many advantages set by law..."Marriage provides many advantages set by law, such as survivor's rights, tax breaks, etc.. To deny them is discriminatory.<br /><br />- an old aunty"<br /><br />Not sure anyone here is denying that it is discriminatory. However, the owner and COO of a corporation is entitled to hold whatever opinion he or she wants to do and to spend their corporate profits in any manner that elect to do so. <br /><br />To watch ANY person under the cloak of governmental position (ie. a mayor) attempt to put up a stop sign to further expansion into that jurisdiction is an improper infrigement upon the First Amendment right of said owner of a corporation...and THAT is the real issue here. <br /><br />Free speech CANNOT be a one-way street...and that was something someone running another site could simply not grasp. I would hate to see similar attitudes take hold here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-89779441791714340782012-08-06T18:10:04.559-04:002012-08-06T18:10:04.559-04:00I thought I had addressed those concerns. Normaliz...I thought I had addressed those concerns. Normalize same sex unions legally with marriage, same rights same responsibilities. <br /><br /><br /><br />Change the name and same sex unions will have widespread acceptance.<br />Until the activists are willing to drop the idea of calling their unions marriages there won't be any acceptance by the majority of Americans. <br /><br /><br />NYFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-25610594282355527602012-08-06T17:36:05.592-04:002012-08-06T17:36:05.592-04:00Marriage provides many advantages set by law, such...Marriage provides many advantages set by law, such as survivor's rights, tax breaks, etc.. To deny them is discriminatory.<br /><br />- an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-7752593399026402332012-08-06T00:02:17.573-04:002012-08-06T00:02:17.573-04:00It needs to be understood nobody has a right to ma...It needs to be understood nobody has a right to marry, hetero or homosexual. Marriage is a Privilege and requires a license for it to be recognized by the state and the federal government. Marriages licenses have only been around since the late 1800s. There is a long sad history associated with the marriage license it was used to keep the races separate as well as keeping people thought to be unfit to reproduce to marry. <br /><br />The only sensible thing to do is to remove the license requirement and allow anybody to marry anybody else that is not a direct member of their family. Get rid of tax regulations that favor married people and push for the same recognition for all forms of marriage.<br /><br />This won't happen for one simple reason. The homosexuals insist on calling their homosexual unions marriage, the majority of the people in the US are against this because of religious beliefs and tradition. <br /><br />If the homosexual community would get it's collective head out of it's ass and support their unions being called civil unions and push for equality and federal recognition they would have the support of the population at large. <br /><br />But we know they just like the Tee-Gees are selfish and want to hijack the word marriage and water down it's meaning. <br /><br />As for voting for Obama, well we all make mistakes. <br /><br />NYFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-28694095526962512892012-08-05T18:37:11.922-04:002012-08-05T18:37:11.922-04:00A third point, as post script, the COO had the rig...A third point, as post script, the COO had the right to say what he did. Others have the right to call him every name in the book and suggest a boycott of his company. Whether that is fair or wise is a question separate from whether they have the right to do so. A boycott is legitimate free speech. The first amendment forbids the government from interfering with free speech. The first amendment does not in any way restrict individuals from using speech to attack people with whom they disagree. As an individual I am, by definition, unable to abridge your first amendment rights. I am not part of the government.<br /><br />-an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-84286407301057192012-08-05T18:15:22.780-04:002012-08-05T18:15:22.780-04:00First point was, same sort of arguments from bibli...First point was, same sort of arguments from biblical authority, God, tradition, etc. are trotted out to deny equality. Second point was, historically forces fight against acknowledging the human rights of minorities. Human rights ought not be put to a majority vote.<br /><br />- an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-83965270560247042262012-08-05T15:46:05.381-04:002012-08-05T15:46:05.381-04:00It left me shaking my head at the 'outrage'...It left me shaking my head at the 'outrage' certain groups tried to stir up over the comments by CFA. Even more appalling were mayors who were even remotely suggesting that CFA would no longer be welcome in their community for new locations. <br /><br />At what point in time did activists decide that free speech is only something that should exist if you agree with the activist position? <br /><br />The CFA peeps have every right to voice whatever position they want and even to use their corporate profits in the furtherance of their position. I may not like their position, but I am damned sure not going to seek to remove their ability to adopt a position. <br /><br />My local CFA has some very obvious individuals who would potentially be impacted by their CEO's position. But, the position does not threaten their employment. We don't discuss politics when I place an order though. Yes, I admit it...I like their Spicy Chicken sandwich and even occasionally order the chicken strips.<br /><br />The outcry that was generated is same story, different chapter out of the whacktivist playbook. It is sad that they believe silencing others is the way to achieve what they want...<br /><br />And no, my going to eat a chicken sandwich or not going to eat a chicken sandwich won't, in the long run, impact my ability to marry at some point in my life (if I ever chose to marry my partner).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-16497343375266736302012-08-05T02:05:31.241-04:002012-08-05T02:05:31.241-04:00@old aunty
Any attempt to hijack the civil rights...@old aunty<br /><br />Any attempt to hijack the civil rights movement is a loser from day one and a white and a black marrying was still a marriage recognized or should have been recognized because it is a man and a woman.<br /><br />The issue here is same sex marriage is not recognized as a legal action in most places. I am 100% in favor of same sex marriage but based on laws people can demand the right of referendum.<br /><br />The simple truth here is there is no federal mandate that provides for same sex marriage and it will probably have a difficult time passing Congress. It is an issue for 3.5% of the population, many of whom could care less.<br /><br />Many black churches are openly against same sex marriage. Try and tell them it is the same as civil rights. We fought a civil war of slavery. We are not going to fight over same sex marriage because it should be a non-issue in the upcoming election.<br /><br />People have a right to say just about anything and you cannot legislate against stupid and the COO of Chick-fil-a proved that.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-55799129393480124922012-08-04T22:15:36.630-04:002012-08-04T22:15:36.630-04:00Black were forbidden to marry whites, with much th...Black were forbidden to marry whites, with much the same arguments. Isn't surprising the rights of others are a soft issue when your own rights are a hard issue. Human nature being what it is....<br /><br />How would you like having your right to marry who you love put to a vote?<br /><br />- an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-4626083230963112252012-08-04T18:44:58.057-04:002012-08-04T18:44:58.057-04:00Amen, the greatest scandal here is the attempted d...Amen, the greatest scandal here is the attempted denial of free speech.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02991391285746762005noreply@blogger.com