tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post4008757461877506369..comments2023-04-26T23:19:46.504-04:00Comments on Notes from the T side: I am baffled by the TV, CD, and non transitioned crowdElizabethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-18122820143480401082011-05-10T23:59:26.772-04:002011-05-10T23:59:26.772-04:00@ Laughing. The problem that most transsexuals lik...@ Laughing. The problem that most transsexuals like Liz, like Kim Petras, like me even have is that we never were able to "pass" as male despite (the now discredited) xx and xy chromosome argument. So for the real transsexual your nasty little attempt at inflicting psychological pain falls way short. <br /><br />My chromosomes have never been checked so I have no idea whether they are xx or xy and frankly close to 30 years post srs and 15 years of marriage to a man (who does not know by the way) I neither want to know nor care. For the past 30 years of my life I have lived worked loved laughed and cried female. I have endured sex discrimination and yes I have the looks that cause me to be "objectified" the same as all women do but let me tell you something about ridicule. My whole life up until transition I was ridiculed and demeaned because of the way I looked. Ridiculed because of the way my voice sounded. My correction cured all that.<br /><br />The trouble is, the majorty of the world sees the transvestites and transgender pretenders and think they are transsexuals when really they are as you say, fetish transvestites living a fantasy. So sunbeam, your attempt at nastiness here flies right over my head, Liz's head and all the other genuine transsexuals because we understand the difference because we have experienced real transsexuality.<br /><br />So go peddle your nastiness where it may do some good, like T Central, Facevaluereport, Melissa and all those other fakes with blogs (FWB) here you're wasting your time.<br /><br />By the way, understand terms like "cognitive dissonance" before you use them or at least apply them to the right people will you.<br /><br />By the way I have not been "clocked” by anyone in 30 years. “laughing” I could be your neighbour and you wouldn't know it. Think about that for a moment eh!!! <br /><br />CassandraspeaksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-31260468200582554362011-05-10T18:10:22.086-04:002011-05-10T18:10:22.086-04:00@Anonymous,
Actually I just realized you are also...@Anonymous,<br /><br />Actually I just realized you are also illiterate. Try actually listening to the teacher instead of dreaming about your fetish desires.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-10134033442587554522011-05-10T18:05:22.973-04:002011-05-10T18:05:22.973-04:00@Anonymous
I do suggest you actually read what ha...@Anonymous<br /><br />I do suggest you actually read what has been posted. I realize that limits the anger of the gender variant like yourself to express your daily mood, while deciding whether boy, girl, or it is the mode for the day.<br /><br />Now go and play with yourself. I bet you are quite adept at that.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-3153258670928378982011-05-10T16:17:16.390-04:002011-05-10T16:17:16.390-04:00Waugh you are really judgmental.
Instead of trying...Waugh you are really judgmental.<br />Instead of trying to better your self by kicking those who lie down, try and better it instead.<br /><br />So what if Cd/TV´s want to be called she, and so what if some elderly 55 year old wants to be a boy or a girl.<br />Whats it to you to judge them the way you do?<br /><br />You should instead look in the mirror and act like the woman you are and start caring instead of hatting.<br /><br />Have you ever though about that may be identifying as the other gender can be a mental thing and not just a physical thing?<br />it seems to me that you only see the physical in people and not the mental.<br /><br />Is it not possibly that some with gender disorder does not look like a 100 % girl but still is a 100 % girl in the head?<br />What makes you the judge of who is a woman and who is not.<br />have you forgotten of how it was when you were a boy?<br /><br />Sincerely<br />Cat<br />ps: I am 25 if you wanna know, so not that older than you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-41042036645943935562011-05-09T00:26:13.989-04:002011-05-09T00:26:13.989-04:00I'm a Male-To-Female transgender. I'm als...I'm a Male-To-Female transgender. I'm also a lesbian. I'm sex-positive, polyamorus, and a wildly creative artist. I have tattos, pircings, and I like leather. I'm pre-op and I experimented with cross-dressing for a very long time. I started transition at 33. (I'm 35)<br /><br />According to what I have read here, I'm not a "real woman". <br /><br />It's a sad state of affairs when we begin sniping at one another, isn't it? We, the single most hated minority in the world, judge one another. <br /><br />Sickening. This is everything that we are supposed to be fighting against.<br /><br />I have had to defend myself as a woman, from other transpeople. If this should teach us anything, it's that the standard of womanhood is ultimately in the heart of an individual. Gender is not something that is black and white, and I'm ashamed to see that lesson is so completely lost.<br /><br />And this "gold standard". i can tell you now, most of us ain't got the 30,000 or so that transition ultimately costs. Some of us have to wait years, decades, before they can get the operation. Some never get the chance. others decide not to have any surgery at all.<br /><br />Are they not women? Are they not men? What about people who are pre-op? Are you saying that we are not in transition? What about you? Were you a man until you had the surgery? Woulden't that make you exactly what you are "baffled" by? <br /><br />I have found more acceptance with many transvestites then I find elsewhere. Why would i judge someone else because they aren't like me? We are all trans-people. <br /><br />My final words are on lesbianism. I am a gay woman. I could not love as a man- because I am not a man, and i don't want a woman who is straight. I am a WOMAN. My fiance is a WOMAN. <br /> <br />I am a LESBIAN. Get over it, already.Gennifer Bonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-28596613076060081642011-05-02T00:26:14.052-04:002011-05-02T00:26:14.052-04:00Well...It seems the lines are clearly being drawn....Well...It seems the lines are clearly being drawn. The "TRANS_FOLK" are definately throwing a warparty hissyfit. Perhaps we should remember the wise words of "A Sister": <br /><br />"One should avoid trying to teach pigs to sing as it is a sorry, smelly waste of time, and....It seriously annoys the pigs."<br /><br />I always find it so highly ironic when those "OH! So inclusive" TG/GQ's start beating us with their ubiquitous TG/Pink umbrella. And...as ALWAYS, the conflation..."Transsexualism has to be the only correctable condition where people would rather embrace it as an identity and fight for special rights, than overcome it and have the normal rights everyone else has."<br /><br />Gee, it seems I must have lost that "identity" about 40 years ago, and this fighting for "special" rights is exclusively the Rant and privilege of the TG BORG.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02696670919817140802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-61243496913747544782011-04-29T18:24:36.908-04:002011-04-29T18:24:36.908-04:00@Anonymous
What about I am baffled do you not und...@Anonymous<br /><br />What about I am baffled do you not understand? transfolk? By transfolk do you mean the transvestites, cross-dressers, and gender variant crowd that want to latch on to transsexuals so their fetish world is legitimate in their eyes?<br /><br />Nobody wishes them any ill but anyone born transsexual is decidedly different than someone with a social disorder.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-7680140072180504272011-04-29T17:28:06.124-04:002011-04-29T17:28:06.124-04:00I myself am amused that you claim the authority to...I myself am amused that you claim the authority to characterize the feelings and actions of so many transfolk. You are guilty of the exact same over-generalizations that you claim to be baffled by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-18219829244029279712011-04-29T16:40:34.643-04:002011-04-29T16:40:34.643-04:00@Chris,
Where have I ever said that I am pissed b...@Chris,<br /><br />Where have I ever said that I am pissed because others do not pass as well as me? Please point that out to me somewhere.<br /><br />I have never said I am better nor worse than any other transsexual but I am decidedly different as are all transsexuals when compared to transvestites and cross-dressers and the gender variant. You need some reading comprehension acumen.<br /><br />The concept that one is always transsexual is the type of transgender BULLSHIT spouted by those that want everyone to be alike. If a transsexual can be cured then that makes the transvestite/cross-dresser what they are which is quite simply a social problem and differentiates them from us. <br /><br />Well if I had nothing worthwhile to say why are you so pissed off? Also if you do not believe it is a nightmare to be born transsexual then you are a complete and total fucking MORON. I would wish this is on not even my worst enemy. It is actually almost a tragedy in many ways to be born transsexual.<br /><br />You are an FTM. Your issues are actually something I have no clue about in the same way you have few clues about what it means to be MTF.<br /><br />I respect you work as a rape counselor but you are clueless about the rest of things. Transsexuals are not the same as tvs, cds, and the gender variant. That is the simple fact of it all and what this post was really about. Now stick your head back up your ass and take a deep breath. Yes that is your own bullshit you are smelling.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-80549804380512813742011-04-29T16:24:27.395-04:002011-04-29T16:24:27.395-04:00@LittleChiefHare
You have no clue who or what you...@LittleChiefHare<br /><br />You have no clue who or what you are. You would not know if it bit you in the ass.<br /><br />What it means to be a woman has changed. Please do explain from lengthy experience and knowledge. <br /><br />You should re-read your first paragraph sweetie. You migth want to rephrase that.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-48288457572396243892011-04-29T15:28:04.663-04:002011-04-29T15:28:04.663-04:00If I wear women's clothing I'm a fetishist...If I wear women's clothing I'm a fetishist motivated by attraction to myself in drag. If I don't wear women's clothing I'm not really transitioned. Nice catch-22. Whatever. I rock denim with a spiffy cadet hat and not a fuck is given. It looks nice IMHO.<br /><br />I know who/what I am and don't need to try and match a 1950's vision of womanhood in order to feel secure in my identity. In case you haven't noticed, what it means to be a woman has changed rather dramatically over the past half-century. Of course you've got your head so far up your ass it's impossible to imagine you've taken notice of much of anything.LittleChiefHarehttp://transgirldiaries.com/comics/2009-10-07-20091007.gifnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-66039830173516527832011-04-29T15:09:21.306-04:002011-04-29T15:09:21.306-04:00So pretty much you're pissed because other peo...So pretty much you're pissed because other people don't pass as well as you so therefore they're less than you or is it that if they cannot have surgery for some reason that it makes them less real? Maybe its that its such a tragedy that these other people somehow invalidate you because of how hard you've had it because, of course, they're just "pretending."<br /><br />What a load of elitist hogwash.<br /><br />You put surgery as the end-all, be-all of the transsexual experience without ever considering the fact that there are thousands of people who cannot access such procedures due to extreme poverty. You don't consider that there are an infinite number of medical conditions that prevent doctors from performing what is considered by the medical profession to be an "elective" surgery. <br /><br />The fact that you summarily degrade anyone who isn't exactly like you as somehow playing dress up or being a "fetishist" just proves your own ignorance. You tout your own suffering as more important than anyone else's and more "real" while degrading anyone who has had a different experience.<br /><br />I'm sorry you feel that being a transsexual is a "tragedy" or that you can somehow no longer be transsexual once your body is "fixed." That kind of thinking is what often leads many post-op TS individuals to commit suicide because even with surgery they cannot and do not pass the same way as cis women. Your hateful arguments that anyone who doesn't or cannot transition as being mere fetishists denies the reality of people who actually live this life every day and haven't had the privileges you have had.<br /><br />Check YOUR privilege because obviously you haven't if you're spouting this kind of ignorant crap.<br /><br />Until you've actually walked the path of someone else then I recommend that you take your own advice and STFU since this entire post has proved you have nothing worthwhile to say.<br /><br /><br />NOTE: Just so you can munch on this, I am a transsexual male that is in transition after being forced to live my life as a woman up until this point. I'm also a rape and crisis counselor who works with trans individuals. Your kind of hatred is understandable because of your own pain, but is inexcusable in regards to shitting on other people because you feel victimized.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-65020797082715256372011-04-29T14:56:41.022-04:002011-04-29T14:56:41.022-04:00@Chief,
First off you know nothing of my childho...@Chief,<br /><br /><br />First off you know nothing of my childhood if you make those statements and I would never ever abuse anyone physically but you are mentally stuck with your concept of transgender because you assume you are always transsexual which of course does make the giant leap you are not a transvestite or a gender variant individual. <br /><br />So you started tr5ansition at 21. Cloths were not important so you never cross-dressed. How do you know if you transitioned if you did not change your appearance? Did you put a sign around your neck and walk around telling people they must now use feminine pronouns for you?<br /><br />When you actually have a clue come back and talk with me little boy.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-70233758405948134292011-04-29T14:23:41.756-04:002011-04-29T14:23:41.756-04:00"Once transsexual, always transsexual. "..."Once transsexual, always transsexual. "<br /><br />Sorry, Chief...not true. And the new DSM-V states that once you have been successfully treated for transsexualism, you are no longer diagnosable. They are finally going to get at least part of it right.Dana Lane Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371106122654623171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-25909218531159920372011-04-29T09:47:36.126-04:002011-04-29T09:47:36.126-04:00@Beth
You can always spot a winner by their inabi...@Beth<br /><br />You can always spot a winner by their inability to use google to rectify simple confusions.<br /><br />http://lmgtfy.com/?q=little+chief+hare<br /><br />You still have a Y chromosome and your brain isn't even fully female.<br /><br />http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/26/scans-show-difference-in-transgender-brains/<br /><br />Your claim that you are "no longer transsexual" is false by any reasonable account. Once transsexual, always transsexual. You can't undo your biological past, or your biological present; there are still countless things that separate you and mark you as DIFFERENT FROM cisgender women, these things mean you are still transsexual.<br /><br />Yes, transsexuality is a medical condition. It does not follow that other variants of transgenderism are mental conditions. That is an absurd logical leap which you have plainly made on the basis of biases rather than any kind of intelligent process of reason.<br /><br />I started transition at 21 after finally working through the physical and mental abuse I endured as a child and adolescent. Prior to starting transition I never cross-dressed, because my identity never had anything to do with clothing for me. I intend to get surgery. And from that background, I can say that you utterly disgust me and remind me of the people who abused me as a child; you are a dogmatic, judgemental, abrasive and vicious little nothing. Maybe you're not trying to prove something to anyone else, but clearly you're deeply insecure because it doesn't seem like you would even know what your place in the world was if you weren't putting other people down in order to have a frame of reference.<br /><br />You are our own 5th column. You disgust me.LittleChiefHarehttp://transgirldiaries.com/comics/2011-04-22-0074.pngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-88709245068163838732011-04-29T01:31:32.499-04:002011-04-29T01:31:32.499-04:00how many anonymous writers posting anonymously doe...how many anonymous writers posting anonymously does it take to make an anonymous group where all those that are anonymous to each other, can anonymously put forward an opinion that can never be challenged because the correct anonymous writer in the anonymous group, might be any one or the same anonymous persons writing anonymously !anonymous leighnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-60483313807440641172011-04-29T00:56:35.996-04:002011-04-29T00:56:35.996-04:00@Anonymous,
If you transitioned at 36 and had sur...@Anonymous,<br /><br />If you transitioned at 36 and had surgery then good for you. If you transitioned at 36 and have no plans for surgery then if you think everyone thinks of you as a woman you should seek professional help or many go back to the transvestite community outreach program you came from.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-29784533930919576822011-04-29T00:54:28.275-04:002011-04-29T00:54:28.275-04:00@LittleChiefHare
Well you got the Dummies part of...@LittleChiefHare<br /><br />Well you got the Dummies part of your website coorect. You are a dummy. Are you any relation to Chief Dan George? Are you even American Indian? Are you even transsexual or are you one of the fetish crowd that seems to be up in arms over these posts. One always knows the post was dead on when the fetsih loons are upset.<br /><br />We are not all the same but then I would never expert a fool like you to realize that. I was born transsexual and fixed it. The issue is we want those born transsexual to be medically classified and not mentally challanged and classified a nutjob like you.<br /><br />Those not born transsexual have a social condition otherwise know as a FETISH. You know what I mean? I am sure you are an expert at getting aroused in your silk panties.<br /><br />Now back to fetishland where the mentally ill reign supreme and the panties are always silk and stained beyond repair.<br /><br />By the way if you think I am trying to ingratiate myself to anyone you are dumber than a fencepost and you already rated tree stump status.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-9347603939699524352011-04-29T00:45:45.835-04:002011-04-29T00:45:45.835-04:00@Dana
I have not been transsexual for 40+ years ...@Dana <br /><br />I have not been transsexual for 40+ years and I was about as far from perfect as any human can be at times. <br /><br />Here we have Dana Taylor as self professed "transsexual activist" and "professional transsexual" whose only real claim is she was a late transitioning educator with a liberal elitist mentality which immediately made her the perfect person to tell everyone about transsexualism.<br /><br />Your problem is you see the validity of the post and it reminds you of you. Sorry but in this case the shoe fit you perfectly.<br /><br />By the way everyone had choices if you were born transsexual. Some took it on early and refused to be pushed down. Others bowed to pressure or society but those were your choices. You could have made a different decision once you were a young adult so please stop with the "I had no choice bullshit" because it is exactly that. Total bullshit.<br /><br />Every single one of us made choices. I had no money but need to be me so I studied and got a job and got it over with. I made a stupid choice at 17 and got mad at mom and it cost me 7 years of waiting for surgery. It was MY CHOICE despite the Aversion therapy they used on me.<br /><br />If you were born transsexual you made a choice to marry a woman. You made a choice to have a family. You made a choice to wait. You made a choice to t5ransition whenever you did.<br /><br />You had choices and IMHO if born transsexual you made shitty choices but like most liberal elitists it is never your fault. You had no choice. Must be nice to be a guiltless Huffington Post following left wing wingnut that always has the "It wasn't my fault cause I had no choice.<br /><br />You had choices but like many of us including me you were either a coward and made a bad choice or deliberately decided that girl you were banging was more important than being a girl.<br /><br />Your choice and your loss and all your whining does is make you another whiny "it was not my fault, I had no choice" whiner. You are too gutless to admit you just made the wrong choice.<br /><br />Now go back to liberal land and spend this country into oblivion you clown.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-13268974337693976852011-04-28T21:31:12.105-04:002011-04-28T21:31:12.105-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Zoëhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01961673543873786012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-5757491252560600722011-04-28T20:06:15.046-04:002011-04-28T20:06:15.046-04:00Wow what a post here. All I know is I started tran...Wow what a post here. All I know is I started transitioning at 36. Since that time I have been the happiest ever in my life. Does it matter that I have or have not had any surgery? Not to me and my family and friends as they see me as a woman all the time. Not everyone has the means or desire to have surgery so for me its a mute point. I look in the mirror and love what I see. That is all I will ever need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-79525302434862191112011-04-28T16:47:53.578-04:002011-04-28T16:47:53.578-04:00"But it is ridiculous and a bit daunting to h..."But it is ridiculous and a bit daunting to hear these people who transitioned late in life talk about transsexualism as if they are now the perfect woman. Those of us who transitioned early on, we have dealt with not only the issues of being discriminated against as woman, but also as Trans woman. Does this somehow make us more authentic so to speak?<br /><br />No, but it does make us different. We started from the beginning. We dated, held jobs, built life's as who we are, because we had no choice. I hardly every think about the fact of being a trans woman unless their is talk of new babies from coworkers, etc. Being a trans woman was non negotiable. No ones voice on the outside was louder than my discomfort on the inside. There was no balance before hormone therapy."<br /><br />Hugs for that. I totally agree, your experience is incredibly different than mine. But at least I will be able to live the rest of my life the way I should have all along.Dana Lane Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371106122654623171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-3874545839862825852011-04-28T12:58:53.977-04:002011-04-28T12:58:53.977-04:00Yes, blame other minorities for your problems. OH...Yes, blame other minorities for your problems. OH. OH. Also, invent a complicated taxonomy designed to validate your already heavily inauthentic identity at the expense of those who society has more difficulty accepting. That's always an epic strategy. Like a black person telling a white person that niggers are real and not a racist construction in order to ingratiate themselves to the white person by distancing themselves from that artificial category. Or "straight gays" selling out "camp gays". Or a woman accused of witchcraft repenting and pointing out other witches.<br /><br />Why does your "community" mean so much to you anyways? What you share in common with other people in regards to what you do with your genitals, or in regards to generic feelings beyond your control, hardly seems like a basis for any sort of authentic culture. Any variant of queer culture should only be accepted pragmatically as a means of survival in a homophobic and transphobic society, or perhaps a means of finding people to fuck. <br /><br />Why does it mean so much to you to distance yourself from specific types of other people? Maybe they're different from you, maybe not. Either way, you're either trying to ingratiate yourself to someone, or you're trying to convince yourself that something doesn't apply to you. Neither of which are signs of a person who actually knows who the fuck they are.<br /><br />Enjoy running in existential circles you dumb cunt.LittleChiefHarehttp://www.derailingfordummies.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-12566087610196559132011-04-28T12:10:32.805-04:002011-04-28T12:10:32.805-04:00You know I transitioned at 17, I am in my late 20&...You know I transitioned at 17, I am in my late 20's now. I have to say I really get Elizabeth's frustration. I'm sure there are more than a few TransWomen out there who did transition later in life.<br /><br />But it is ridiculous and a bit daunting to hear these people who transitioned late in life talk about transsexualism as if they are now the perfect woman. Those of us who transitioned early on, we have dealt with not only the issues of being discriminated against as woman, but also as Trans woman. Does this somehow make us more authentic so to speak? <br /><br />No, but it does make us different. We started from the beginning. We dated, held jobs, built life's as who we are, because we had no choice. I hardly every think about the fact of being a trans woman unless their is talk of new babies from coworkers, etc. Being a trans woman was non negotiable. No ones voice on the outside was louder than my discomfort on the inside. There was no balance before hormone therapy.<br /><br />So please show a little respect and realize surgery or not. Being able to check the female box on an application because you paid for it, does not somehow make you an authority on the matter of transsexualism. It does however make you someone who transitioned quickly, and therefore have a unique experience to share which is all your own.<br /><br />This journey is long, and starts way before the thought of sex ever comes into play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-52143787295735347272011-04-28T09:57:53.744-04:002011-04-28T09:57:53.744-04:00@anonymous
Transgenderism IS a choice.
Transsexu...@anonymous<br /><br />Transgenderism IS a choice.<br /><br />Transsexualism is a birth condition.<br /><br />.. and thats where your confusion comes in. The transgenders have purposly blurred that line to make their case seem legitimate. <br /><br />It is a lie.leighnoreply@blogger.com