tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post2678196061704102354..comments2023-04-26T23:19:46.504-04:00Comments on Notes from the T side: The Sandeen List of "Trans" ShameElizabethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17931270965200576249noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-68959856915178215872012-05-13T20:34:39.009-04:002012-05-13T20:34:39.009-04:00Frankly, I could not stomach the level of self-ser...Frankly, I could not stomach the level of self-serving CRAP that was projected by this self-described bi-polar, (read: schizophrenic, the old NON-PC terminology), onto the entire "trans* community".<br /><br />Granted this, hmmmm.....person did hedge their statement in order to provide for plausible deniability by stating that "some trans*, MIGHT" experience these feelings, the message was clear that because Sandeen and other trans* folk did and do, we ALL must have and MUST.<br /><br />Excuse me, but the simple truth is that those of us that do NOT identify as trans* anything, simply do not experience such victimization. <br /><br />This is not to say that our individual paths to personal integrity was not fraught with difficulty. For many who made those neccesary corrective changes, the pain and the price paid to have a simple, happy, normal life, was in fact enormous.<br /><br />But... what needs to be remembered, what is being intentionally ignored by Sandeen and his/her cronnies, is that once the correction was made, the pain stopped. It was over, and we are now able to live happy, productive, and yes, NORMAL lives.<br /><br />If these folks want to be trans*, or identify as trans* forever, fine. Let them clearly and honestly define who they are and what they want. The key word here is 'honestly'. What that means by definition is that they stop their LIES by defining themselves, whoever or whatever they are, as anything even remotely related to what is or was experienced by those men and women born with a MEDICALLY treatable congenital defect. A defect, incidentally, treated VERY effectively and with a VERY high rate of success by HRT and SRS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-41004745897543691792012-05-13T02:11:50.069-04:002012-05-13T02:11:50.069-04:00FYI, some of us are proud to be Trans, that is non...FYI, some of us are proud to be Trans, that is non cis wich means you are trans and if you are cis then you aint trans. <br /><br />your blog is horribleIndi X Yes Really...https://www.blogger.com/profile/03640932579378378236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-84394876769010273652012-05-10T19:53:25.481-04:002012-05-10T19:53:25.481-04:00http://lgbtweekly.com/2012/05/10/trans-sexualizati...http://lgbtweekly.com/2012/05/10/trans-sexualization-trans-medicalization/<br /><br />Looks like Sandeen is at it again.<br />Funny how I was around in the 90s and don't remember any of the crap Sandeen is talking about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-51437589165361398212012-05-10T16:01:30.173-04:002012-05-10T16:01:30.173-04:00Boils down to transvestites who think transsexuals...Boils down to transvestites who think transsexuals are just transvestites who get carried away. Trouble is, some transvestites do get carried away.<br /><br />- an old auntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-21147439757672764362012-05-07T22:57:42.591-04:002012-05-07T22:57:42.591-04:00Number 52 is my favorite:
We treat our own trans ...Number 52 is my favorite:<br /><br /><i>We treat our own trans experiences as universal trans experiences. We do this because we believe that if we acknowledge that there is a diversity of trans experiences we may be invalidating our personal trans experience</i><br /><br />There aren't enough LOLs for the hypocrisy of this one! Because Autumn is of course doing that very thing -- considering her own experience to be universal, even to women born transsexual. But she has no clue about that. All she knows is transgender.<br /><br />This "transgender forever" stuff and complaints about the "medicalization" of the condition seem to be going around right now. I know what my own experience was like. I know I was born with something that needed to be corrected medically. Outcome? Outstanding!<br /><br />But really, please, Autumn and others, if you don't feel like you have a defect to fix, please don't fix it. At the same time, don't even try to tell those of us who know we had something that needed to be fixed that we don't know what we're doing.<br /><br />I'm not sure that Autumn and other umbrella types want to hold onto being men. I think they want to hold onto being "trans." Because if they just changed sex and lived life normally, they wouldn't get to be "celebrities." Or rather, they'd have to do something worth celebrating, not just cling to their way of life.Sagebrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11210724540507720167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-76268451139479769062012-05-07T22:49:08.918-04:002012-05-07T22:49:08.918-04:00Well thought out post.
BSWell thought out post. <br /><br />BSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-6035890559822397532012-05-07T22:32:34.492-04:002012-05-07T22:32:34.492-04:00What does Sandeen mean with this incessant babblin...What does Sandeen mean with this incessant babbling about "our" vaginas??! Sandeen doesn't have a vagina; Sandeen has a penis, so how in the hell would Sandeen know anything whatsoever about what it's like to have a vagina? Oh but I guess simply declaring yourself a woman makes you an instant authority on all things female, including what it's like to have female sex organs when you don't actually have them. WRONG!<br /><br />There is no way anyone with a penis, like Sandeen, has a single possible inkling of a clue what it's like to possess a vagina, hence this reprehensible display of total and complete willful ignorance displayed here concerning female genitalia. Unless you really have a vagina, it is physically impossible to even begin to comprehend what it's like. The experience is non-transferable.<br /><br />This sad person is so obviously delusional I cannot understand why anyone would give them a venue to spout their boundless ignorance concerning women. It's a DISGRACE.<br /><br />"A Trans Woman's Shame":<br /><br />1. Autumn Sandeen.<br /><br />The end.Foxfirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04024545328665800258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-7314951791776666262012-05-07T21:35:32.586-04:002012-05-07T21:35:32.586-04:00Autumn I want to thank you for opening my eyes!
B...Autumn I want to thank you for opening my eyes!<br /><br />Before this I was a deluded fool. I had these clearly erroneous thoughts that I was somehow just a female when I clearly am not! Thank you Thank you Thank you! Now that my eyes are open I am going to shed my shame and start proclaiming my trans-enss to the world! But before I do... would you mind telling me how do you think should we should refer to you Autumn Sandeen? Should we follow your Gladd Media Guide and refer to you as the "gender" you identify as, though all our senses say otherwise? " Do we say Yes Ma'am! No Ma'am" to your face, with a wink wink nudge nudge titter titter the moment your back is turned? Or should we just go with what is clearly there for the sake of "trans-honesty... ""Hey Buddy! Yeah you! You over there in the dress with the ratty hair and the goofy beret! Get a job!" <br /><br />I mean, the ONLY reason I would even bring that up is that by your rather comprehensive postulations on trans-shame. Shouldn't you, as the activist and a leader in the community be proud of your being a man! After all Autumn, you still have a functioning god given phallus, you fathered children, you were married in the Catholic Church to the woman who bore your children and you passed Navy medicals for twenty years as a man. So it stands to reason that as you have been recognized as such by pretty much every social structure there is, you are indeed a man!<br /><br />So why is that not part of your trans-shame list? Why is it that my wanting to be a normal woman, an act of such intense shame, when your pretending that you are something you clearly are not (female) is an act of strength and courage? Get real Autumn You really can't have it both ways you know. If we are as you say never to be 'real" women, then as the morphology is rather limiting we are men. And in that same vein, if you and we are the same as you say we are, then ergo. you too ARE male! So why not go with it? Fess up! Be a man! Stand up and be loud and proud of your proclivity for gender fucking as a dude! Well albeit a ball-less one these days! I mean why not march yourself into the nearest men's room and proclaim loudly your right to use these facilities as a man in a dress! A man who has every right to dress and act however he wants and to pee when he needs to!<br /><br />Oh but that is not going to happen is it? If you use the mens room dude then your fantasy would be broken. You couldn't as a man then stand behind Janet Mock, or Jenna Talackovaand say I am just like "Her" because, well according to you she ain't a she! She is a he, you know, just another dude, dude! <br /><br />Oh well and it was such a grand idea too! C'est la vie! <br />MKIAMiz Know-It-Allhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573490462316887852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-86501870829639783292012-05-07T18:20:41.588-04:002012-05-07T18:20:41.588-04:00Good points CS.
This peace by Sandeen is also a pr...Good points CS.<br />This peace by Sandeen is also a prime example of how the Tee-Gees are out of bullets. <br /><br />I was waiting for someone to write a peace about this where I could post. <br />Thanks Liz. <br /><br />NYFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-67935515344156875102012-05-07T17:38:28.057-04:002012-05-07T17:38:28.057-04:00Isn't this from Sandeen just a fine example of...Isn't this from Sandeen just a fine example of "The Politics of Envy" Sandeen and many of those like him are driven by a jealous rage that targets those of us who have what he can never have. Simple as that. Like the two people at the centre of your last essay Sandeen is irrelevant except to the other self-marginalised people. They point their fingers at everyone else forgetting that there are three more fingers pointing back at themselves. Nice post Liz.<br /><br />CSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-83397146777293850072012-05-07T17:07:40.489-04:002012-05-07T17:07:40.489-04:00Forgot to sign
NYFForgot to sign<br /><br />NYFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-60167691862590251282012-05-07T17:07:00.789-04:002012-05-07T17:07:00.789-04:00Sandeen has a place from which sh/he can troll and...Sandeen has a place from which sh/he can troll and irritate legitimate women of TS history. Sandeen's internalized hate of real TS women really comes out in this peace. I have a friend who knows Sandeen quite well even when Sandeen was an out and proud sissy. The friend was invited to Sandeen's place where sh/he was renting a room and within the first ten minutes Sandeen had to show off the collection of sissy cloths. Someone as sick as this person can never be normal and wrongly assumes every person of TS history is as fucked up as sh/he. <br /><br />Sandeen's hatred of women of TS history who move on and live their lives in mainstream society she outed my friend, another woman to her church and threatened to out SA-ET if she didn't back off. Sandeen's own behavior has destroyed what little credibility this person had to begin with. Sandeen't column over on http://lgbtweekly.com/category/commentary/transprogressive/<br />Seems to have fallen out of favor with the people at LGBT Weekly, she seems to be posting only once a month, I have a feeling they are tired of her crap, the sad part is they will be left with the impression all TG/TS people are like that creep, all the more reason to keep pushing to have the LTG,Tee-Gees just leave us alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944795231126319421.post-56463584094677250682012-05-07T16:49:39.216-04:002012-05-07T16:49:39.216-04:00Is this where we say cue Autumn to show up in 4, 3...Is this where we say cue Autumn to show up in 4, 3, 2, 1.....?Deenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14347031772197022065noreply@blogger.com